tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post1905075137723022362..comments2024-01-08T03:21:35.616-05:00Comments on DeKalb County School Watch: Board Retreat and Policy InputCerebrationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-65689334636305762022010-11-14T12:22:09.186-05:002010-11-14T12:22:09.186-05:00Dunwoody Mom, guess you'll be voting Jim back ...Dunwoody Mom, guess you'll be voting Jim back in .... I must say I had you pegged differently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-68343205506037600512010-11-14T12:20:06.056-05:002010-11-14T12:20:06.056-05:00Re the blog above, are Ron Ramsey and DR. Tucker l...Re the blog above, are Ron Ramsey and DR. Tucker looking into these allegations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-41567454925654579512010-11-14T02:04:30.426-05:002010-11-14T02:04:30.426-05:00The principal that is suing DCSS didnot sue when t...The principal that is suing DCSS didnot sue when the system allowed her to travel the state and out of state using county time and leave on Tom Joyner, CNN, Essence, etc. Nor, did Butler sue when she sold books and pocketed the money. Nor, did she sue the county when she lied about her findings on Martha Stewart about how much she saved the county. It is apparent that she and her sister used the system like so many others but they got caught and now they are upset and want everyone to think of them as victims. They are not victims and hopefully they lawyer will take their money like they did with the book sales and allow the county to send them packing for GOOD! Thieves. Butler and her sister, Ms. Roberts are mad with the other book sellers now, so they want to sue. Interesting. She should refund people back their money and be ordered to locate the missing cookbooks that she wrote a bonus check out for herself with. To date, no one not even Butler can tell you where the books are. More than likey, the money in entangled in her made up company, "ENNvoy"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-8279876119898386572010-11-07T15:33:27.500-05:002010-11-07T15:33:27.500-05:00@DM,
I said that "our school board, Jim Redov...@DM,<br />I said that "our school board, Jim Redovian included". I didn't say just "Jim". Someone else brought up the fact that Jim mentioned M to M. My point is that he's part of the problem. He's clinging to that issue and has done nothing to improve education in our district. That's why discussing M to M is an excuse. It's an excuse for more than just Jim Redovian, many on the board will bring this up. I'm not trying to discredit or praise anyone. I just want to discuss what I observe and what anonymous observed in a different posting. Please don't jump to conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-27060967732902844302010-11-07T13:44:13.510-05:002010-11-07T13:44:13.510-05:00There are numbers from the Sept 15th count on the ...There are numbers from the Sept 15th count on the planning website.<br /><br />I can't imagine the official numbers will be off that much.<br /><br />In case you haven't seen them, here they are:<br /><br />http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/planning/<br /><br />Enrollment Report by grade is probably the report you want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-81893743451932725092010-11-07T13:42:22.561-05:002010-11-07T13:42:22.561-05:00The lawsuits cited above really indicate that this...The lawsuits cited above really indicate that this is an issue that lives on in DeKalb. Time consuming and expensive, this makes changing things all the harder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-28063472320626662702010-11-07T13:32:17.661-05:002010-11-07T13:32:17.661-05:00The GADOE has not updated their wesbsite with the ...The GADOE has not updated their wesbsite with the Oct. 2010. The enrollment numbers can be found at this link:<br /><br />http://app3.doe.k12.ga.us/ows-bin/owa/fte_pack_enrollgrade.entry_formPaula Caldarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05515215184962897541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-69461367269630272212010-11-07T13:29:55.831-05:002010-11-07T13:29:55.831-05:00Again, if in your efforts to discredit Jim Redovia...Again, if in your efforts to discredit Jim Redovian, you fail to understand the long-term consequences to this school system of the M-to-M program, well, then there is not much more than I can say.Paula Caldarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05515215184962897541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-55526593140169041342010-11-07T12:40:38.059-05:002010-11-07T12:40:38.059-05:00@DM,
I know that M to M was a federal mandate. Bu...@DM,<br />I know that M to M was a federal mandate. But we spend far to much effort using it as an excuse and having this discussion. We should spend our time and resources teaching kids regardless of their location. Our school board, Jim Redovian included, doesn't spend much time discussing the reality of our academic situation. How long shall we argue about M to M and it's effects? You said it was an excuse - indeed. Can't we get past accepting excuses and deal with where we are not and not argue about how we got here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-70628013906302852912010-11-07T12:28:54.321-05:002010-11-07T12:28:54.321-05:00Lawsuits continue today in DCSS. At least one ove...Lawsuits continue today in DCSS. At least one over the move of KMS and as reported on this blog the federal complaint over the location of programs like IB at Shamrock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-17669854288141955282010-11-07T10:58:58.208-05:002010-11-07T10:58:58.208-05:00Womack is very proud of the fact that he is respon...Womack is very proud of the fact that he is responsible for having DCSS declared a unitary school system by the US Supreme Court -- he would have you believe he flew the plane himself to Washington for the hearing. He ran for the BOE again because Terry Morris needed him to fix things that weren't right when she left....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-15734518268135603892010-11-07T10:51:07.857-05:002010-11-07T10:51:07.857-05:00Slightly off topic, but can someone tell me where ...Slightly off topic, but can someone tell me where I can find the October 2010 "count" numbers for school enrollment? I was told they are on the state website but I cannot find them.<br /><br />Would like to have these before attending the first charette.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-86000787653835795922010-11-07T09:26:23.183-05:002010-11-07T09:26:23.183-05:00White flight wasn't just to private schools ei...White flight wasn't just to private schools either, the demographics of DeKalb changed dramatically. At the time of the first law suit, I think there were less than 5,000 African American students in DeKalb. <br /><br />Much of Gwinnett's early growth can be attributed to white families fleeing integragation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-48084644703224945142010-11-07T09:22:41.457-05:002010-11-07T09:22:41.457-05:00And M-to-M was not an "idea". It was a ...And M-to-M was not an "idea". It was a mandate by the Federal Government.Paula Caldarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05515215184962897541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-18878349545156931752010-11-07T09:16:43.178-05:002010-11-07T09:16:43.178-05:00It was certainly a bad deal. But we can't keep...<i>It was certainly a bad deal. But we can't keep using that as an excuse</i><br /><br />Sure we can. The M-to-M program caused a tremendous amount of damage to DCSS in financial terms. As someone pointed out earlier, a tremendous amount of money was spent on busing; the school system was not allowed to redistrict or build not buildings. If you think M-to-M should be belitted, then I suggest you do some digging on its history and effect on our schools.<br /><br />It was also the beginning, sadly, of white flight to private schools.Paula Caldarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05515215184962897541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-77123092486469526702010-11-07T08:52:32.285-05:002010-11-07T08:52:32.285-05:00@DM,
It was certainly a bad deal. But we can'...@DM,<br />It was certainly a bad deal. But we can't keep using that as an excuse. It is 2010. Redovian's been on the board and done nothing to address the core problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-3309711474156459232010-11-06T21:43:23.571-04:002010-11-06T21:43:23.571-04:00We suffer today because of poor leadership during ...We suffer today because of poor leadership during those times.<br /><br />Look at this from Emory about Jim Cherry, a former DeKalb Superintendent.<br /><br />http://marbl.library.emory.edu/conduct-research/research-guides/school-desegregation<br /><br />CHERRY, JIM D. (MSS 655)<br /><br />Papers, 1947-1988; 11 linear ft. (11 boxes, 13 oversized bound volumes)<br /><br />Jim D. Cherry (1911-1980) was superintendent of the DeKalb County, Georgia, school system for twenty-five years. He believed in maintaining separate schools for white and black students. By the time Cherry retired in 1972, the school system had undergone token integration. The collection consists of correspondence, speeches, writings, printed material, scrapbooks, photographs, clippings, and memorabilia.<br /><br />Restriction: Restrictions on access and reproduction may apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-30966983121877327702010-11-06T21:38:21.115-04:002010-11-06T21:38:21.115-04:00Jim Redovian and the magic M to M excuse. Can'...<i>Jim Redovian and the magic M to M excuse. Can't we get these old guys off the board? </i><br /><br />Redovian is right about M-to-M and how it devasted DCSS financially and in other ways.Paula Caldarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05515215184962897541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-18991493074169110102010-11-06T21:26:32.292-04:002010-11-06T21:26:32.292-04:00I don't know much about Puckett, but I do know...I don't know much about Puckett, but I do know that Ms. Roberts shows up at every meeting that she can. I expect that they know each other well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-14964280849655389042010-11-06T20:15:10.106-04:002010-11-06T20:15:10.106-04:00Jim Redovian and the magic M to M excuse. Can'...Jim Redovian and the magic M to M excuse. Can't we get these old guys off the board?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-85956719685460653802010-11-06T20:09:59.731-04:002010-11-06T20:09:59.731-04:00@anon 911,
Jim Puckett went on and on about how g...@anon 911,<br /><br />Jim Puckett went on and on about how great Zepora is. He called her a mentor. Do you respect that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-40172970036960478322010-11-06T16:57:27.094-04:002010-11-06T16:57:27.094-04:00Current magnet transportation costs between 3 and ...Current magnet transportation costs between 3 and 4 million dollars for a shuttle system that is not door to door and serves far fewer children than the peak of m to m.<br /><br />"At some point the futility of the legal challenge should have been cast aside."<br /><br />You are right, but no one who was around then is around now. We can't hold them accountable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-527486181491714392010-11-06T16:54:29.732-04:002010-11-06T16:54:29.732-04:00And the transportation was mostly door to door in ...And the transportation was mostly door to door in the beginning and there were buses with just a few students on them etc.<br /><br />If you picked Dunwoody for your child and you liven in Redan, the bus picked your child up and took them there.<br /><br />Read the history of DCSS, at least from DeKalb's perspective, to get a sense of how things were all those years.<br /><br />http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/about/history.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-48480784914247667012010-11-06T16:50:20.990-04:002010-11-06T16:50:20.990-04:00You are confused. The transportation costs were f...You are confused. The transportation costs were for cross-county transportation for thousands of children. Two trips a day plus many high school activity buses. The ten million plus a year was for that transportation cost alone, that did not include regular neighborhood transportation.<br /><br />Womack is the only board member who could have had any influence over the desegregation lawsuit as he was on the Board back in the 80s when things were still up in the air a bit, I believe.<br /><br />The rest of the board came in much later, most in the last 4 to 6 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-49209493699654490212010-11-06T16:49:09.522-04:002010-11-06T16:49:09.522-04:00Clarification: The 3:58 post did not say $10 milli...Clarification: The 3:58 post did not say $10 million for transportation to an elementary school. I got overzealous in my reply but stand by the context in which it was presented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com