tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post5345208921652457565..comments2024-01-08T03:21:35.616-05:00Comments on DeKalb County School Watch: Where The High School Students AreCerebrationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-67016608862906312342010-09-20T13:30:37.476-04:002010-09-20T13:30:37.476-04:00No one is talking about closing CMS or CCHS - take...No one is talking about closing CMS or CCHS - take a chill pill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-69477096206567128732010-09-20T13:16:15.804-04:002010-09-20T13:16:15.804-04:00Why is this Anon. poster so anxious to close CMS? ...Why is this Anon. poster so anxious to close CMS? Geez, work at the county office? Jealous of the schools success? What's your issue? Why can't you believe people that actually have students at the school? I'm retired and live in the area and I know of plenty of young families that plan to send their kids, who attend Montgomery now, to CMS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-57454599633430997672010-09-20T13:13:02.332-04:002010-09-20T13:13:02.332-04:001:00pm Anon.
Please come to my kids class and I...1:00pm Anon.<br />Please come to my kids class and I'll introduce you to his team! Geez, I'm tired of being called a liar. Have you been to the school? Have you talked with every kid on team 6-A. I have, I've met them! I have a very close friend on the school counsel. Are your numbers broken down by grade and team? I'm just saying.. I'll meet you at the school this afternoon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-15255368481576637982010-09-20T13:00:15.008-04:002010-09-20T13:00:15.008-04:00It is already available for the middle school, jus...It is already available for the middle school, just not in the format that was released for the high schools.<br /><br />Here it is updated on Sept 15th:<br /> <br />Chamblee Middle has 494 resident attendees and 394 non-resident attendees.<br /><br />http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/planning/files/ResNonRes_20100915.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-46446839642452329752010-09-20T12:36:41.500-04:002010-09-20T12:36:41.500-04:00^^^You will be very surprised when the enrollment ...^^^You will be very surprised when the enrollment data for the MS come out. It won't backup you ascertains.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-27432141143182797372010-09-20T12:36:30.953-04:002010-09-20T12:36:30.953-04:00I think it is important to note that the success a...I think it is important to note that the success at CCHS is not shared equally. The magnet students do far better, when Johnny Brown had the test scores separated, the differences were striking. <br /><br />I am going to try and find the chart from way back when to illustrate the point.<br /><br />If you read the Chamblee charter, you will see references to the differences in outcomes among non-magnet students and magnet students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-48018319262916426372010-09-20T12:29:29.209-04:002010-09-20T12:29:29.209-04:00Anon 11:59
There is only two transfers in the 6-A ...Anon 11:59<br />There is only two transfers in the 6-A group, the remaining are residents. When the 100 AYP kids arrived they added a 6th grade teacher and only one, that my son knows of, was placed into 6-A. At curriculum night we were surprised, as you most likely are, that everyone in this group were from our neighborhood schools, we knew them all!<br /><br />Also, most of these parents are planning to send their kids to CCHS as well. I know it's hard to believe, but this neighborhood is changing and not everyone who lives here goes to private schools.<br />The last 10-15 years, young families, like ours, moved here because of CCHS and then of course CMS, as the battle raged to build the new building in the neighborhood. Over the next 10 years you are going to see more residents go to the public schools, especially if CCHS gets a new facility and maintains their lofty perch of academic success in DeKalb County.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-11936614724753229752010-09-20T11:59:48.876-04:002010-09-20T11:59:48.876-04:00@11:24. How many of the children in this class of ...@11:24. How many of the children in this class of high acheivers are transfers (not just magnet, but AYP, admin., etc.)? Would such grouping be possible if such transfers were not present?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-91781451217888971462010-09-20T11:47:39.959-04:002010-09-20T11:47:39.959-04:00^^That should have read:
Prior to this year, ther...^^That should have read:<br /><br />Prior to this year, there was only one 6th grade "Team" at Chamblee Middle SchoolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-23320366251334178582010-09-20T11:46:59.779-04:002010-09-20T11:46:59.779-04:00Prior to this year, there was only one "Team&...Prior to this year, there was only one "Team" at Chamblee Middle School, so it would have been a little difficult to have separate teams for gifted, high achievers and general. This year due to the influx of NCLB transfers another team was added at Chamblee. Again, neither team is separated by classification. All levels are in each team. There is simply not enough students in 6th afford delination. <br /><br />That changes in 7th grade when the KMS students arrive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-44920537578105493982010-09-20T11:24:38.303-04:002010-09-20T11:24:38.303-04:00Anon. 10:08
You are mistaken about your facts. I ...Anon. 10:08<br />You are mistaken about your facts. I checked again this morning to make sure I was correct, in my post last night. My son's 6th grade team are all High Achievers. They are a High Achieving team. Like I said earlier, there might be two who are not, however the majority of the team are! May I ask where you get your information? <br /><br />I am a parent of a child on the 6-A team at CMS. We had curriculum night and I am proud to say that all but one child was represented by a parent that night.<br /><br />Please tell me how you know so much about CMS? Do you have a child there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-36354628404996910652010-09-20T10:10:59.068-04:002010-09-20T10:10:59.068-04:00No Duh
I have advocated your position for years. ...No Duh<br /><br />I have advocated your position for years. <br /><br />You are on the money. The classes need to be in place for the students who need them. <br /><br />It is very possible for teachers to teach at more than one school, so one AP Biology teacher could actually teach at 2 schools.<br /><br />If the courses are never offered, then the momentum never builds and the demand for the classes can never exist.<br /><br />How do you know what you don't experience?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-75181734446743105222010-09-20T10:08:56.482-04:002010-09-20T10:08:56.482-04:00"6th grade team are high achievers and reside..."6th grade team are high achievers and residents too.<br /><br />This isn't true. His classes may be with all students who qualify as high achievers, but the whole team is certainly not all high achievers. That is how they do it at some DCSS middle schools, but CMS doesn't have the numbers to allow that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-77226187837661592172010-09-20T10:01:56.845-04:002010-09-20T10:01:56.845-04:00The Valedictorian at MLK HS had over a 4.0 Average...The Valedictorian at MLK HS had over a 4.0 Average and was accepted at Ohio State University.<br /><br />It's obvious he received a great education at one of these so-called "failing" schools that over 700 students transfer out of.<br /><br />Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-62752592225836606052010-09-20T09:53:21.308-04:002010-09-20T09:53:21.308-04:00Why don't the southern high schools offer as m...Why don't the southern high schools offer as many AP classes as the northern schools?<br /><br />Could it be lack of fortitude and confidence? Could it be poor school board representation?<br /><br />Could it be we have lost our ability to BELIEVE?<br /><br />DCSS needs to have the guts to place AP classes in high schools that -- on the surface -- don't seem to have the students who could handle an AP class. <br /><br />I say, put (for instance) AP Biology in a southern school that currently doesn't offer it. But, don't yank it out after one year if only a couple students take it. Isn't that a grotesquely exhorbitant waste of money, you ask? You bet. But, I'd rather waste our tax dollars helping just two students have access to AP Biology than to have all the teachers subjected to force-fed curriculum programs that do not have data to support them.<br /><br />Why do I think this is a better use of our tax dollars? Because I BELIEVE if you build it they will come. You just have to give it time and promotion and build on success.<br /><br />And maybe, just maybe, the brain drain will slow down.No Duhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14462063673391668451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-77694974207329505032010-09-20T09:47:38.806-04:002010-09-20T09:47:38.806-04:00Here is the link to what the State of Georgia defi...Here is the link to what the State of Georgia defines as a "gifted" student. <br /><br />http://www.gadoe.org/ci_iap_gifted.aspx?PageReq=EligibilityChart<br /><br />WAY, WAY more stringent than our Magnet Schools for High Achievers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-4400786903176412732010-09-20T09:45:18.772-04:002010-09-20T09:45:18.772-04:00Um, the criteria for being classified as a "h...Um, the criteria for being classified as a "high-achiever" is the same across DCSS - there is no difference, whether in the magnet program or not. The "Gifted" standards are defined by the State of Georgia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-68785183881380821892010-09-20T09:39:53.671-04:002010-09-20T09:39:53.671-04:00Come on people. Please come to a basic understand...Come on people. Please come to a basic understanding of the difference between "High Achievers" and "Gifted" students before you come on the blog and start comparing the HA magnets with the Discovery programs with the AP classes with the lotteries with the resources with the FTE money that follows GIFTED students. If you don't know the difference between a High Achiever and a Gifted student (a student can be both), please don't wax poetic about what DCSS needs to do with the magnets, etc.No Duhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14462063673391668451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-83764708720823869592010-09-19T22:36:19.352-04:002010-09-19T22:36:19.352-04:00High Achievers are not limited to a magnet program...High Achievers are not limited to a magnet program. My child is at Chamblee Middle and his entire 6th grade team are high achievers and residents too. They all came from Discovery programs at Montgomery, Huntley Hills and Ashford Park. Plus, the High Achiever program has tougher standards than the magnet. You must have higher grades and test scores to be a part of the high Achiever program at CMS. The Kittredge magnet students are NOT at CMS until 7th grade.<br /><br />I still don't see why we need to bring all the magnet to the center of the county. We have a couple in the south, Arabia and SW DeKalb and one in the north, CCHS. What's wrong with that? You move everything to Avondale, which is the rumor that is running wild, will have everyone driving and creating even more traffic for the already clogged roads around Memorial Drive. Isn't Avondale HS like 3 or 4 miles from 285? I know CCHS is only a mile and a half from 285.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-29671234503097027792010-09-19T17:45:46.648-04:002010-09-19T17:45:46.648-04:00True. Somehow, parents have come to believe that t...True. Somehow, parents have come to believe that the 70th percentile is "high achieving". <br /><br />And no, I have not heard much noise about moving SW DeKalb's HA program. Just Chamblee. That leaves basically nothing in the north but regular, everyday high schools. No "choice" at all up here.Cerebrationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-87733987536931026022010-09-19T17:20:29.985-04:002010-09-19T17:20:29.985-04:00In actuality, a "gifted" child could los...In actuality, a "gifted" child could lose out to a "high achiever" in a lottery.<br /><br />This "high-achiever" bs needs to stop. Either have a truly gifted magnet program where the students meet the federal standards of "gifted" or do away with these "high-achiever" magnet programs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-88663840529789231502010-09-19T16:56:13.764-04:002010-09-19T16:56:13.764-04:00My issue with the high achievers' program is m...My issue with the high achievers' program is more programmatic in nature. Why is such a program limited to a lottery? Shouldn't all high achievers or gifted students have access to programs that satisfy their needs? Really? A lottery? So the gifted kid in a local school who does not "win" the education lottery gets the shaft because the local school does not provide what this child needs, which is often not only programs, but also peers that collaborate and thus raise the bar. Indeed, providing such stimulation is based on earning points...so you have to have enough children to earn a point for a gifted teacher, right? (or the local principle decides - and if there are other things that individual values more or children at the bottom of the spectrum who have needs to be met, then the funding goes there to ensure AYP).<br /><br />I don't know the answer, but the current situation clearly is not right. A school should not have to "win" the magnet to succeed overall, and a student shouldn't have to "win" a lottery to have educational needs met.<br /><br />Again, it seems to me we should be working to ensure that the educational value is present in ALL schools, that programs are available for all students. Only if this is concurrent with redistricting does redistricting make sense. IMHOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-34098465840107408382010-09-19T16:53:34.616-04:002010-09-19T16:53:34.616-04:00Anonymous 0349 - did you not review the enrollment...Anonymous 0349 - did you not review the enrollment data that was linked in this post?<br /><br />Over HALF of the students at CCHS are outside of the attendance zone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-76327904596287958102010-09-19T16:51:32.254-04:002010-09-19T16:51:32.254-04:00Please read - the suggestion was to move all of th...Please read - the suggestion was to move all of the high-achiever programs, ES, MS and HS to a centrally located campus. This is not a "move" to save Avondale.<br /><br />The current student population at Avondale, which is extremely small would be moved to another high school in the area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-55308636642785545652010-09-19T16:16:29.150-04:002010-09-19T16:16:29.150-04:00As has been pointed out previously, the Magnet pro...<i>As has been pointed out previously, the Magnet program does not belong to Chamblee - it belongs to the entire school system. Why should it be housed "up north" rather than in a central location.<br />September 19, 2010 10:06 AM</i><br /><br />Do you feel the same way about the high achievers magnet at SW DeKalb? How about the magnificent magnet programs at Arabia? Why does Chamblee have to be centrally located, yet these don't?Cerebrationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.com