tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post932760741882661774..comments2024-01-08T03:21:35.616-05:00Comments on DeKalb County School Watch: HB 22 -- ONE MORE TIME.Cerebrationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-8480860647688772102011-03-27T08:07:04.872-04:002011-03-27T08:07:04.872-04:0030040 is not in DeKalb county, it is Cumming in F...30040 is not in DeKalb county, it is Cumming in Forsyth. <br />30340 is the Doraville area of DeKalb. <br /><br />30019 is Dacula in Gwinnett. <br />30319 is the Chamblee area of DeKalb.<br /><br />Most DeKalb zip codes begin with 303 not 300Cerebrationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-30927199337388296482011-03-26T23:04:55.529-04:002011-03-26T23:04:55.529-04:00@ Lefty:
"You wrote: 30040: White – 95% Over...@ Lefty:<br /><br />"You wrote: 30040: White – 95% Over age 65 – 8.1%<br />Actually: 30340: White - 50% Over age 65 - 7.3%"<br /><br />I think you mixed up the zip codes - 30040 is not the same number as 30340. <br /><br />I said there were more zip codes. That's why I gave you the links.<br /><br />I've lived in central DeKalb almost 30 years so I not only understand the demographic changes, I've lived through them. An older crowd still resides in my neighborhood. As they are gradually passing away or going to nursing homes, their homes are being bought by younger people, however empty nesters still outnumber the families with young kids. <br /><br />I remember when south DeKalb was mostly farmland and devoid of houses. South DeKalb's building trajectory started in the 80s and lasted until around the early 2000s. Now they are just beginning to see their population age and the building has ground to a halt. <br /><br />The northern end of DeKalb was also more sparsely populated that Central DeKalb (look at the houses in Dunwoody - they aren't the 60s ranches of Northlake and the 40s and 50s bungalows of Fernbank). So Dunwoody is a younger crowd and that's reflected in their lower age group. Check out the zip codes in the extreme south and north of DeKalb, and you'll see they don't have the aging population of central DeKalb. <br /><br />The point is that the demographics of an aging population is a major factor here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-82341304260585893432011-03-26T20:17:07.060-04:002011-03-26T20:17:07.060-04:00Anon 11:48 - Your argument might be faulty. The z...Anon 11:48 - Your argument might be faulty. The zips you selected don't show the population diversity here in North/Central DeKalb. And as Anon 5:05 pointed out, here are the DeKalb zips you messed up on:<br />You wrote: 30019: White - 98% Over age 65 – 12.3%<br />Actually: 30319: White - 75% Over age 65 - 12.3%<br />You wrote: 30040: White – 95% Over age 65 – 8.1%<br />Actually: 30340: White - 50% Over age 65 - 7.3%<br />NDK zip you missed: 30341: White - 54% Over age 65 - 8.2%<br /><br />It's also possible that there are a couple of zip codes where the majority of white kids go to private school. Zips like 30002 Avondale, 30306 Emory/Briarcliff, 30329 Briarvista.Leftyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14935830866445373378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-14927780249028376492011-03-26T17:05:01.497-04:002011-03-26T17:05:01.497-04:00Anon 11:48
30019 is Dacula (Gwinnett)
30040 is Cu...Anon 11:48<br /><br />30019 is Dacula (Gwinnett)<br />30040 is Cumming (Forsyth)<br />30045 is Lawrenceville (Gwinnett)<br /><br />However, you did list some DeKalb zip codes: for example, <br />30338 is DunwoodyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-9525043271401968672011-03-26T16:21:10.352-04:002011-03-26T16:21:10.352-04:00@232
Your analysis is incorrect. There were almos...@232<br />Your analysis is incorrect. There were almost 6300 votes case in the district 1 runoff. There were around 2700 cast for the district 7. Jester won by over 11 percent which is a solid victory, if not landslide in electoral terms. Edler's margin was much wider but the vote total is less than half of district 1. In fact, Jester received more votes in the runoff than both district 7 candidates put together. You can see the numbers at http://web.co.dekalb.ga.us/Voter/pdf/GeneralRunoff11302010.pdf <br /><br />Look at the response rate from various super clusters to the survey about redistricting: https://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=cfs7yCefxIosATk9Zs83gI8DjaV4iK2j10i_2bQeLWJso_3d<br /><br />I know that parents in the south care about their children but there communities as a whole are far less engaged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-78489989085636554412011-03-26T15:07:13.546-04:002011-03-26T15:07:13.546-04:00Could you just chop the districts up vertically an...Could you just chop the districts up vertically and then every "new" board member would have constiuents in the North, Central and Southern parts of the county?Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13811793758649982926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-15861528107387393962011-03-26T14:32:01.885-04:002011-03-26T14:32:01.885-04:00@ anonymous 2:16
You're assuming S. Dekalb par...@ anonymous 2:16<br />You're assuming S. Dekalb parents don't care about their children's education. That's not correct. Jester won her seat from Redovian with a close margin. Edler won her seat from Roberts by a landslide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-55897772513095670992011-03-26T12:16:55.795-04:002011-03-26T12:16:55.795-04:00If this passes and there is a vote of a 5 or 7 mem...If this passes and there is a vote of a 5 or 7 member BOE, South DK will be smart to vote for 5. Their demographics will win and North DK will essentially have only one vote. I am sure that the remaining 4 will be "for the children".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-14494002291386441512011-03-26T11:48:13.620-04:002011-03-26T11:48:13.620-04:00There is no huge white flight to private schools i...There is no huge white flight to private schools in DeKalb. The population in North and Central DeKalb is simply still a lot older than south DeKalb. Older people have children who have aged out of the school system. Look at the zip codes, and you can see that south DeKalb has a younger population. However, the age is shifting as there will be more older people in south DeKalb. That's why central and north Dekalb went through school closures a decade ago and south DeKalb is going through it now. <br />A. North and Central DeKalb:<br />30019:<br />White 98%<br />Over age 65 – 12.3%<br />30040:<br />White – 95%<br />Over age 65 – 8.1%<br />30338:<br />White - 85%<br />Over age 65 - 13.2%<br />30033:<br />White – 79%<br />Over age 65 - 17.8%<br />30045: <br />White – 69%<br />Over age 65 - 13.1%<br />30030:<br />White – 64%<br />Over age 65 - 13.7%<br />30035<br />White – 8%<br />Over age 65 – 5.1%<br />30294<br />White - 29%<br />Over age 65 – 5%<br />30032:<br />White – 7.9%<br />Over age 65 - 6%<br />30058:<br />White - 27%<br />Over age 65 - 4.3%<br /><br />This is not all DeKalb zip codes, but it's very representative. Here are the links if you want to see the data:<br />http://www.zipmap.net/Georgia/DeKalb_County.htm<br /><br />http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts?_submenuId=factsheet_1&_sse=onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-5189331098094752742011-03-26T11:41:47.845-04:002011-03-26T11:41:47.845-04:00We write and blog and write and blog and nothing e...We write and blog and write and blog and nothing ever comes of it. I'm growing weary of it all. <br /><br />Ultimately God IS in control and RIGHT will win, and GOOD will be victorious and GOD'S JUDGMENT no one can escape. We ALL get what's coming to us eventually. I'll just have to be content with waiting for that.<br /><br />AND the wrongdoers at DCSS who think they have won must always know, and be reminded, that the time WILL COME for them to pay for their deeds, especially the ones against innocent people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-45837385937135271272011-03-26T11:05:46.870-04:002011-03-26T11:05:46.870-04:00Bingo. Time to do something drastic. Billions of...Bingo. Time to do something drastic. Billions of dollars in and very little to show for it. Dreadful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-85615371001499782802011-03-26T09:12:05.592-04:002011-03-26T09:12:05.592-04:00@8:19 AM -- Your statistics make it abundantly cle...@8:19 AM -- Your statistics make it abundantly clear that white people in the county have lost confidence in the school district. 40% white in the electorate, but what...about 10% white students enrolled? This is one of the biggest problems no-one is willing to talk about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-49803253716309326422011-03-25T22:58:28.838-04:002011-03-25T22:58:28.838-04:00@ 8:04
If you feel a House member is behaving une...@ 8:04<br /><br />If you feel a House member is behaving unethically, here is a link to the Georgia House of Representatives Ethics committee:<br />http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/house/Committees/ethics/gahethic.htm<br /><br />There is contact information on this website.<br /><br />That goes for any citizens of DeKalb County. Personal relationships should not be the basis driving the votes of our elected representatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-8303822370678465492011-03-25T20:04:25.017-04:002011-03-25T20:04:25.017-04:00Wake up an smell the flowers kids< the reason t...Wake up an smell the flowers kids< the reason that Howard threw Oliver under the bus is because he is dating Cunningham's sister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-57268316094097255582011-03-25T18:23:56.528-04:002011-03-25T18:23:56.528-04:00The Dekalb Senate delegation has passed their vers...The Dekalb Senate delegation has passed their version of HB 22 which Jones introduced. They have done their job.<br /><br />I am very grateful to the Senate delegation for this.<br />(And they had to stand up to God LOL)<br /><br />The house delegation is where the problem is. I should have been clearer on that earlier. Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-56170410490927842582011-03-25T17:52:22.363-04:002011-03-25T17:52:22.363-04:00Correcto! And Jones will have an uphill battle fig...Correcto! And Jones will have an uphill battle fighting Womack (aka: God)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-47114562658683662192011-03-25T17:50:47.947-04:002011-03-25T17:50:47.947-04:00@ 5:36
"Keep in mind that this legislation is...@ 5:36<br />"Keep in mind that this legislation is being blocked by South DeKalb legislators especially those interested in protecting Cunningham and Walker. "<br /><br />Also, keep in mind Emanuel Jones is one of the most vocal proponents and is a sponsor of this legislation to reduce the BOE. Emanuel was the legislator who bore the vocal and public abuse that Womack dealt out to him because of his efforts to reduce the size of the BOE (and still Bowen has not demanded an apology to Rep. Jones from Womack). <br /><br />Maybe you didn't know that Emanuel Jones was also a contributor to Jay Cunningham's first campaign. But that hasn't stopped Rep. Jones from thinking critically and doing what's right for kids by sponsoring this bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-57781327724480371162011-03-25T17:36:00.017-04:002011-03-25T17:36:00.017-04:00Keep in mind that this legislation is being blocke...Keep in mind that this legislation is being blocked by South DeKalb legislators especially those interested in protecting Cunningham and Walker. These state representatives obviously don't believe they can protect Walker and Cunningham UNLESS they keep NINE seats on the board.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-58382709788758413722011-03-25T17:34:47.230-04:002011-03-25T17:34:47.230-04:00Instead of worrying about having a voice heard, lo...Instead of worrying about having a voice heard, look at it this way -- The superintendent boss is the school board. Right now that is nine people. Reducing the size of the board will lead to a better working situation for the superintendent. <br /><br />When the lines are redrawn for the school board districts, they must be approved by the entire house of representatives, which is controlled by republicans. I expect that we don't have to worry to much about gerrymandering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-92042287493528282002011-03-25T17:05:33.556-04:002011-03-25T17:05:33.556-04:00I'm not a conspiracy theorist here. However, I...I'm not a conspiracy theorist here. However, I wonder if the DeKalb legislators who must vote on this HB22, are trying to do something to keep DCSS and the current atmosphere working. If they shrink the board, you better believe politics will take a huge role in the policy and how it is formed. I'm nervous having 5 or 7 will give the very folks power who has had it and squandered it for years! Jay Cuningham, Dr. Walker, SCW, and Mr. Bowen. I guarantee you they will draw districts to give these folks the majority.. The North DeKalb folks will get their one voice and voila! Friends and Family stays intact, Guilroy's, Jamal Edwards and other BOE family members will keep their jobs and the new Super will be hired in house. Taxes will be raised, more money for Audria Berry's Office of Destruction and there will be no audit and if there was one it would be shoved in a box and forgotten about. Clew did it, what would prevent the 5 member BOE to do it too.<br /><br />I was for HB22 before I became skeptical of it. Can someone explain how everyone's voice will be heard and represnted by a 5 member board in DeKalb County?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-12209404469402037262011-03-25T11:54:35.650-04:002011-03-25T11:54:35.650-04:007:32-How is that change you voted for going for yo...7:32-How is that change you voted for going for you?<br /><br />Lets see in 2008 I made 50K more than I did in 2010.<br /><br />Not the kinda change I was loking for.<br /><br />I know a lot of people are now out of work, that were not out of work in 2008.<br /><br />Oh, my health cost has doubled due to the "chnage"<br /><br />So before voting for change make sure that is really what your looking for or you may have 5 board members making changes that your not for!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-68027561469404968592011-03-25T11:14:36.469-04:002011-03-25T11:14:36.469-04:00I believe the countywide vote is simply to decide ...I believe the countywide vote is simply to decide whether or not to reduce the size of the board to 5 or 7. If approved, then new districts would be drawn for the actual election which would be held in November 2012. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.Cerebrationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161868015604029471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-77194300994470893492011-03-25T08:40:43.872-04:002011-03-25T08:40:43.872-04:00Let's not be overly sensitive. "Look lik...Let's not be overly sensitive. "Look like" isn't a reference to racial matters. It refers to the politics of the county. We'll have a more liberal board,one more inclined to increases in taxes and one that can't manage services effectively. Look at our county government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-46118683423955190912011-03-25T08:19:30.151-04:002011-03-25T08:19:30.151-04:00Before we got all worked up about what a county-wi...Before we got all worked up about what a county-wide elected board might “look like” (and I’m not even going to touch that), let’s remember that the demographics of the electorate are a lot different from the demographics of the schools. From the latest census:<br />Black persons, percent 53.7% <br />White persons, percent 40.2% <br />Asian persons, percent 4.2% <br />Persons reporting two or more races, percent 1.4% <br />American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent 0.4% <br /> Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent 0.1% <br />The above five categories = 100%. Also noted:<br /> Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent 10.9% <br /> White persons not Hispanic, percent 30.5% <br />Total population, 2009: 747,274, 23.9% under 18, 7.5% under 5<br />http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/13/13089.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151096942903989101.post-64188031508217140522011-03-25T07:59:10.285-04:002011-03-25T07:59:10.285-04:00Would you really want county wide elections?
Keep...Would you really want county wide elections?<br /><br />Keep in mind that this is DeKalb and if we have a 5 or 7 member board we all should be concerned about what that might look like with the politics of DeKalb. It is possible that you will see a consolidation of power for agendas you wouldn't want to have it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com